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Enterprise Season Three Details
posted May 6 2003, 9:03 am by theangrymob

Category: Star Trek

TrekToday has done a nice job of summerizing the article from next week's TV Guide, detailing what's to come in Season Three.

While I applaude the change of pace, I can't help but be irked by their comparison of the use of a story arc to "The Fugitive." Story arcs have been done before in Star Trek and they've worked really well. Berman is still toughting the "Earth's never been attacked" angle. What an idiot.

I smell desperation in the air. Methinks two wannabe writers have their jobs' on the line.


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OK, I'm game
posted by neuronbob on May 6 2003, 9:48 am
OK, let's see if the plot change works. However, if the writing doesn't improve, it will come to naught. It's a shame to lose Florida, though. :)

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Re: OK, I'm game
posted by theangrymob on May 6 2003, 10:38 am
It's a shame to lose Florida, though. :)

Not really, half of the state's population are at death's door any how...


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Re: OK, I'm game
posted by Timeshredder on May 6 2003, 11:54 am
It's a shame to lose Florida, though. :)

Not really, half of the state's population are at death's door any how...

Wiping out Florida! Is there no end to this anti-Canadian sentiment that has been fueled by our non-participation in Iraq???

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I've been waiting for this...
posted by bombadil on May 6 2003, 11:19 am
I am really excited! I have been waiting for years for a sci-fi show with the courage to explore new themes like this...


A new outfit and a new hairdo for T'Pol...

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Re: I've been waiting for this...
posted by Cerberus7 on May 7 2003, 8:55 am
I'm really *really* hoping this is going to be a correction in T'Pol's costume, similar to when Troi started wearing regular uniforms on TNG. Put T'Pol in some Vulcan Robes, dammit!

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Re: I've been waiting for this...
posted by joe__gee on May 7 2003, 7:13 pm
I am really excited! I have been waiting for years for a sci-fi show with the courage to explore new themes like this...

A new outfit and a new hairdo for T'Pol...
Perhaps she'll get a new color too? And nails? A makeover by TLC? A feature article in People, Vogue, and Cosmo? The scary part of season three for me is that they seemed to feel it necessary to mention this change. Didn't they have anything better to announce with their valuable interview time than new fashions? :(

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The best and the worst...
posted by TechnoGirl on May 6 2003, 11:27 am
The best thing... G'Kar! The worst... everything else :(

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Next time on Enterpoop...
posted by TechnoGirl on May 6 2003, 11:35 am
Archer and crew meet the Borg and T'pol gets captured and becomes T'borg. Rick Berman commented "this is the first time that an Enterprise crewman becomes a Borg. T'Borg will be getting a whole new hairstyle."

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Re: Next time on Enterpoop...
posted by Daemonik on May 6 2003, 3:14 pm
Archer and crew meet the Borg and T'pol gets captured and becomes T'borg. Rick Berman commented "this is the first time that an Enterprise crewman becomes a Borg. T'Borg will be getting a whole new hairstyle."
And a new breast enhancing techno-corset. With laser sighted nipples!

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Earth's never been attacked before?
posted by bombadil on May 6 2003, 11:43 am
"Mr. Berman, what do you mean the Earth has never been attacked before?! What about all the other..."
"Oh!"
"I get it... you are the Evil Berman from an alternate universe! Very good! Very clever!"

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Re: Earth's never been attacked before?
posted by Daemonik on May 6 2003, 3:14 pm
"Mr. Berman, what do you mean the Earth has never been attacked before?! What about all the other..."
"Oh!"
"I get it... you are the Evil Berman from an alternate universe! Very good! Very clever!"
Was he wearing a goatee?

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sweet!!
posted by is on May 6 2003, 12:07 pm
Whether this has been done before or not, I think this is a great thing. The show needs a purpose and direction, not just some wandering ship heading around getting in random fights.

I'm happy about the fallback on war too cuz frankly, war is a lot more realistic and exciting than peace. The neutral zone was always a cool piece of space for that reason. They could simply get near to it and it becomes more dangerous and exciting. I've always preferred space action over space soap-opera.

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Re: sweet!!
posted by bombadil on May 6 2003, 12:30 pm
The neutral zone was always a cool piece of space for that reason. They could simply get near to it and it becomes more dangerous and exciting.
In my high school there was a small utility room between the boy's locker room and the girl's locker room with doors to both. It was the same as the neutral zone, simply get near to it and it becomes more dangerous and exciting.

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How lame can they get?
posted by Cutthroat on May 6 2003, 1:11 pm
Berman said, "What we are about to do is a first for Star Trek...there has never been a Trek series built around a specific mission and specific stakes."

So what was DS9, particularly in the last few seasons? And does anyone else think that statement is telling? "Hey, we just realized that all of Star Trek up until now has been vapid crap and it's no wonder there's hardly any emotional investment."

the mysterious Xindi send a probe to Earth that devastates everything between Florida and Venezuela

Ok, so they blew up the Gulf of Mexico and it started some all-or-nothing war, and no one in over 400 episodes of ST:TNG, ST:DS9 and ST:V ever thought it was important enough to mention? And they're going to try to explain it away with some sort of alternate timeline cop-out?

The Xindi have obtained information that Earth will destroy their home world centuries in the future, and have decided to strike first

"... because this way, we'll can just explain it all away as a misunderstanding at the end, and then the Xindi and Starfleet can just forget about the millions of deaths they've caused each other and team up and go kick ass on the Suliban."

"Their bodies become anatomically inverted (skin on the inside, organs on the outside), yet they somehow remain alive."

Maybe, maybe you could get away with a lame gimmick like this in a fantasy setting. But in sci-fi?

a new outfit and hairdo for T'Pol

And that just has to be the lame cherry on top of the lame cake. It's one thing to have characters on a show that are primarly there to be eye-candy for a bunch of hollywood-brainwashed males who'll haven't grown out of their teenage mentality yet. I can understand that, and if that's what it takes to keep good shows on the air, sure, bring it on.

And I can even understand how you need to change up the eye-candy from time to time so those viewers don't get bored and start looking for Baywatch reruns.

But to announce it like it's something important, like it's a selling feature....

I just don't have the words to express my disgust right now.

...

You know, this makes me wonder if Kenny on Southpark wasn't a commentary about shows like Star Trek. It's really not much of stretch for the next episode of Star Trek to feature some mysterious alien that looks like Barbara Streisand travelling back in time to turn Archer inside out. Trip and Mayweather will say in union "Hey, they killed the captain!" and Mayweather will put on a stern face and slam his fist into his hand, saying "You bastards!" Afterward, Phlox, Trip and Mayweather can come up with some strange plan to save the ship that involves Archer's gay dog (voiced by George Clooney) and a bag of Cheesy Poofs. Meanwhile T'Pol asks Reed to go ice skating with her but Reed throws up on her feet, and Hoshi gets approached by a bunch of Germans about a movie they'd like her to star in...

And then of course in the next episode, Archer is alive again, and everything is back the way it was, until they find this strange starving Ethiopean kid floating around space in an escape pod..


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Re: How lame can they get?
posted by GrimSean on May 6 2003, 3:58 pm
And then of course in the next episode, Archer is alive again, and everything is back the way it was, until they find this strange starving Ethiopean kid floating around space in an escape pod..
They already did the finding-a-person-in-a-spaceship-that-isn't-supposed-to-be-there episode, but I wouldn't be suprised at all if B&B brought in a version of the Marklars. Perhaps it will be these ever-so-mysterious Xindi (why haven't we heard of them? alternate dimension? what? cop-out? what?)

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Re: How lame can they get?
posted by vanyel on May 7 2003, 1:36 am
Perhaps it will be these ever-so-mysterious Xindi (why haven't we heard of them? alternate dimension? what? cop-out? what?)

I can't fault them for coming up with races we've never heard of, especially when we're asking for just a little originality here, though it does seem odd that we wouldn't have heard about a swath from Florida to Venezuela getting wiped out.

What I can fault them for is the lame notion that the weapon that did it was a "test". Give me a break: no one in their right mind "tests" a weapon on its intended target for the very reason of what they've got planned for Season 3: if it don't work, they're gonna come kick your butt.

And what's this bunch of jocks they're going to put on the Enterprise? Space: Above and Beyond meets Trek? Talk about a culture clash.

I'll keep an open mind, and hope to be surprised, but it's going to take both stellar writing and acting to pull this one off.


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Re: How lame can they get?
posted by bombadil on May 7 2003, 3:42 pm
...it's going to take both stellar writing and acting to pull this one off.
Oh then it will no fine. Phwew, for a minute there I was getting worried. I'm sure the Doctor and Porthos can carry the rest of the cast...

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What about the races we know about?
posted by joe__gee on May 7 2003, 7:08 pm
This is opinion, nothing more:

I am having increasing difficulty feeling anything but apathy towards this "prequel." There were plenty of races present in TOS that we could certainly go about "discovering." I realize that in this series the Vulcans have already Been There, Done That, drank the plomig broth, but humans haven't really spent any time with the Tellarites or the Rigelians. I applaud whoever decided to bring in the Andorians, but there are also the races from the TOS movies, the Deltans, the Xelatians, the Efrosians. What about humanity's struggles settling our own solar system? What about the first few extrasolar colonies?

We don't need Borg, we don't need Xindi, and we really don't even need Suliban other than to tidy up an unproductive storyline. Aren't there wars we should be heading towards, the Klingons, the Romulans?

Assign a special "first contact" team to the NX. Send them to Rigel for starters. Let them meet some aliens (and maybe piss them off) who we might recognize from TOS, but keep the friggin' Ferengi away. Let's see what happens to colonies that are settled on planets that are already inhabited by sentients. Let's see something get so ugly that it takes two, three, or four episodes to fix, and doesn't involve time freaking travel, B&B's universal cop-out.

What if human disagreements with Vulcans were to become heated to the point of military confrontation, even if it were brief?

Not that either Berman or Braga read this, but if I were to give them a suggestion it would be PRETEND THAT TIME TRAVEL HAS NEVER, EVER HAPPENED, AND FIND A NEW PLOT DEVICE. This is Trek, not Doctor Who, yet this "primitive" version of Trek seems to deal more frequently with time travel and its consequences than even the Next Generation series.

OK, I'm done. I feel better. :)

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Re: What about the races we know about?
posted by Babbster on May 7 2003, 8:49 pm
Not that either Berman or Braga read this, but if I were to give them a suggestion it would be PRETEND THAT TIME TRAVEL HAS NEVER, EVER HAPPENED, AND FIND A NEW PLOT DEVICE. This is Trek, not Doctor Who, yet this "primitive" version of Trek seems to deal more frequently with time travel and its consequences than even the Next Generation series.

OK, I'm done. I feel better. :)

Nice rant, by the way. :)

ON topic, I think the way they've handled this series borders on criminally incompetent. As you (and nearly every other Trek fan who doesn't try to excuse anything that Paramount does) said, there are so many things that could have been done within the continuity, rather than trying to screw it over with every other episode. DS9 even made a plot where they went to an episode from THE FIRST SERIES interesting and entertaining, where it could easily have been a nonstop groanfest we would all want to forget. Even the alternate universe where the Federation was evil was good (take THAT, grammar and logic!) on DS9. Both are examples of using continuity to your advantage.

Instead of exploring how the United Federation of Planets became big and great, we're "treated" to a show that seems to be almost entirely about time travel. You'd think that Scott Bakula would have looked at the scripts from the first season and turned them down cold on that basis alone (poor guy probably signed a multi-year contract based on the pilot script or even just the premise).

It's like they've tossed everything but the most basic framework of Trek (a human ship exploring the universe in search of new...). I just wonder if they've done it in a cynical (but at least understandable in a financial sense) effort to get higher ratings with a bigger cross-section of fans, or if Berman and company are so in love with themselves and their ideas that they can make a great Star Trek show by throwing out everything that came before..."before" to us, anyway.

I must be a bigger Star Trek fan than I thought considering I keep coming back to read and comment on Enterprise stories. :)


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