PS – I wasn’t a big Venom fan either but at least his creation felt organic to the symbiote story.

PPS – I think another reason Carnage was created was to give the illusion of variety when they were doing the biweekly ASM thing. I always figured they started doing ASM biweekly because Mark Bagley told Marvel that he could easily draw two issues per month and they decided to take him up on it – surprisingly, the art did indeed continue looking good but I think the writing suffered.

How can you people NOT like Carnage!? … But Carnage was just a regular guy who happend to enjoy killing people. Now he stumbles upon a nifty new suit, bang, you’ve got the most insane/dangerous killer on earth in the marvel universe. … Carnage was the Villan you loved to hate. I may be alone on this but I think the worlds just not as interesting without our sociopath friend.

I can your point and in many ways I agree, Carnage is that psycho you sometimes need, but I don’t think Carnage works the way he has been done before. I mean if they were to come up with an interesting version or Carnage I suppose I would be more open to him it just seemed like a lame add on to the Venom story arc’s. They I felt he was introduced stank to much of “Oh no Venom is turning out to be not that evil after all oh we need another plot hook quick!” (admittedly a lot of Marvel can be like that sometimes).

I think the problems with Carnage overwhelm his good points for instead of Carnage you could just have something much nastier and more evil. Such as a normal human, no symbiant, mutant powers or anything just a human who enjoyed killing in sick and twisted ways and was completely insane, admittedly that’s more of a Batman bad guy but hey it could work.

But isn’t this a problem with a lot of things in any form of story (be they book, comic, film or TV)? We can always see ways that things could be done better or the problems but never the cures. Sometimes the best option is count or loses and drop and idea rather throwing in random plots just to justify one thing in the big plot.

Bendis was asked if there would be an Ultimate Carnage. His answer: “Not on my watch.” Ultimate Lizard first appeared in Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #10, along with Ultimate Man-Thing.

A mighty HUZZAH! And a Thank you! To the Comic Shop Robin!

How can you people NOT like Carnage!? I mean think about this. Just about every other villan is some guy whos been persecuted (sp?) by society and retalliated with violence. But Carnage was just a regular guy who happend to enjoy killing people. Now he stumbles upon a nifty new suit, bang, you’ve got the most insane/dangerous killer on earth in the marvel universe. I think kletus (or is it cleatus) Cassedy provided a much needed, fully hateable person to the spidey world. I mean Goblin was nuts, it’s not his fault, Brock was craped on by everybody and hated parker to begin with then the suit warped him, can’t blame a guy there, Vulture had his reasons, The lizard is doc conners, how can you REALLY hate doc conners for crying out loud! Rino was too dumb to really hate. The king pin wasn’t evil really, he didnt kill for shits and giggles. He’s not the type that got enjoyment out of squeezing the life out of you, he was all about the bucks. Carnage was the Villan you loved to hate. I may be alone on this but I think the worlds just not as interesting without our sociopath friend.
*I apolagize for spelling, i’ve had very few hours of sleep but wanted to post on this before nobody gave a damn*

Bendis was asked if there would be an Ultimate Carnage. His answer: “Not on my watch.” Ultimate Lizard first appeared in Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #10, along with Ultimate Man-Thing.

A mighty HUZZAH! And a Thank you! To the Comic Shop Robin!

One thing I hope they don’t do, however, with the ultimate line
is Carnage he was a lame idea, or maybe just poorly done in the
series’ before. It could be that they do it well as the redesign of most of
the bad guys has been very fresh.

A side question for you wonderful people, does anyone know if the
lizard has shown up yet (except for a flashback)?

Bendis was asked if there would be an Ultimate Carnage. His answer:
“Not on my watch.” Ultimate Lizard first appeared in Ultimate Marvel
Team-Up #10, along with Ultimate Man-Thing.

One thing I hope they don’t do, however, with the ultimate line is Carnage he was a lame idea, or maybe just poorly done in the series’ before. It could be that they do it well as the redesign of most of the bad guys has been very fresh.

A side question for you wonderful people, does anyone know if the lizard has shown up yet (except for a flashback)?