"Later, T'Pol suggests an intriguing and intimate Vulcan cure for Trip's vivid nightmares of his sister's death."
{SIGH} One Word....
Smallville.

"Later, T'Pol suggests an intriguing and intimate Vulcan cure for Trip's vivid nightmares of his sister's death."
{SIGH} One Word....
Smallville.

...if the MACOs snicker endlessly oncamera about Porthous.

Now, I hate extraneous cute characters (ie the infernal Scrappy Doo) just as much as the next fan, but, what's wong with Porthos?

Quite frankly, Porthos is the only one on that show that I can stand to watch for more than a single scene.

And while I'm being frank, most of the cast I can't even stand for a full scene!

They should really rename and reimagine Enterprise as "Star Trek: The Adventures of Porthos and A Bunch of Stupid Humans (Plus A Reject From Baywatch: Vulcan Nights And Doctor Phlox, Medicine Alien) Who Always Screw Things Up". Hell, I'd watch that!

They held a panel on women in genre TV at WorldCon this year. The general opinion was that T'Pol didn't even merit discussion and Enterprise shouldn't be considered canonical Trek.

They held a panel on women in genre TV at WorldCon this year. The general opinion was that T'Pol didn't even merit discussion and Enterprise shouldn't be considered canonical Trek.

...and Enterprise shouldn't be considered canonical Trek.

...and Enterprise shouldn't be considered canonical Trek.

AFAIC,

there are about 80 hours of canon (Star Trek plus a few of the first movies.) Everything else is historical revisionism.

Pretty much everything with the Paramount logo on it, except the cartoon series.

The Captain walks into being held hostage in a war zone, THEN you send in the Marines. Sigh. The only thing that will redeem this season is if the MACOs snicker endlessly oncamera about Porthous.

Why were they too good to just call them 'Marines'? Is it not science fiction if the troopers don't have some made up section name?

I will be interested in what kind of armor/weapons these guys are carrying, because if they've got power suits or phaser deflectors then it'll question every red shirt that's ever bought it for the series.

It's just a show! It's light entertainment. Enjoy it as such and get off your holier-than-thou thrones fer cripes sake!

Dude, you don't understand. UPN passed on picking up Firefly to air this crap. Wearing my Browncoat all these months this summer until the Firefly movie got greenlighted has made me smell a little ripe.

Fair nuff, but Farscape died as well (although after a much longer run). It's the nature of networks (not Bragga and Berman) to cancel shows they can't sell (advertisers/ratings). Firefly wasn't bad, but I hardly see how bagging on Enterprise is going to bring it back. Firefly was poorly marketed. The commercials were painful to watch, and likely turned off more users than anything else. Trek may not be Firefly, Red Dwarf, Dr. Who, or Farscape, but that's not B&Bs fault. That's just business.

Fair nuff, but Farscape died as well (although after a much longer run). It's the nature of networks (not Bragga and Berman) to cancel shows they can't sell (advertisers/ratings). Firefly wasn't bad, but I hardly see how bagging on Enterprise is going to bring it back. Firefly was poorly marketed. The commercials were painful to watch, and likely turned off more users than anything else. Trek may not be Firefly, Red Dwarf, Dr. Who, or Farscape, but that's not B&Bs fault. That's just business.

I hate to say it, but geek or not, this attitude stinks. This is the same attitude that says "well, that's politics. can't change it, might as well just bend over and accept it". (not saying you feel that way, but it's the same line of reasoning). "bagging on enterprise" is something we have every right to do - even if the show was GREAT. I know I can find at least two star trek fans who hate DS9 to every one that loved it. Enterprise, however, is pretty much universally maligned. And for good reason. When you do something and decide to put it in a pre-existing framework, you have a responsibility to respect that framework. That doesn't mean you have to keep it 100% intact. Sometimes it works better if you change something. But you need a good reason to change it. The people who made enterprise have NO respect for Star Trek. This is something that absolutely amazes me, as my wife just got me watching TNG episodes again and the name "Rick Berman" keeps showing up in the credits. these are GOOD shows. what the hell?? The problem, I think, is that these people were writing episodes that took place in the future. Continuity was not a problem - they were CREATING it. at that point, the framework can be stretched all you want, because "we just didn't understand this properly" is a perfectly acceptable way to throw out something we "knew" before. We do it all the time in real life. When you go BACK and start writing stories about what happened before - when there are pre-written records of major past events - you have to a) keep SOMEWHAT in line with those events and b) not throw out the culture that we already see. like one person said "if they have phaser deflectors, it'll throw into question every red-shirt that ever died". While yes, in the end it doesn't matter, because it's just TV, we're taking issue with it because it's BAD story telling. And if you're going to tell a bad story, you really ought to just save us the pain and not bother.

Have a laugh, enjoy the show, and remember that if you want to live in the Trek Universe check the mirror first.

Have a laugh, enjoy the show, and remember that if you want to live in the Trek Universe check the mirror first.

Well maybe trek universe is bit dull but it isn't nothing compared to this one. hopey

u people ae all crazy fuck star trek it is a crap show u all are so crazy i do not like star treck so please talk about something else please. and people that like that show are geeks except for pheral willioms

u people ae all crazy fuck star trek it is a crap show u all are so crazy i do not like star treck so please talk about something else please. and people that like that show are geeks except for pheral willioms

This site needs troll controll...

That, And With The LilFizz_Babygirl Part Of The Name, I Wonder If It's Some Bitter X Fiziko Dumped Because She Couldn't Understand The Shows He Watched.

That, And With The LilFizz_Babygirl Part Of The Name, I Wonder If It's Some Bitter X Fiziko Dumped Because She Couldn't Understand The Shows He Watched.

My ex's know how to punctuate. Besides, they all watch genre, too.

This site needs troll controll...

This site needs troll controll...

Actually, this site needs to figure out who pheral willioms is.

u people ae all crazy fuck star trek it is a crap show u all are so crazy i do not like star treck so please talk about something else please. and people that like that show are geeks except for pheral willioms

Bureau 42 is site that traditionally focuses on science fiction

While the academics may not consider Star Trek to be "hard SF," it is considered to be a form of Sci-Fi

This particular thread happens to focus on the the slice of the Sci-Fi genre that is Star Trek, ergo it is only natural to discuss it here.

u people ae all crazy fuck star trek it is a crap show u all are so crazy i do not like star treck so please talk about something else please. and people that like that show are geeks except for pheral willioms