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		<title>By: johnboy</title>
		<link>http://www.bureau42.com/view/1725/firefly-review-the-complete-series/comment-page-1#comment-13625</link>
		<dc:creator>johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Got It
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Ditto - Quality TV just seems to end this way.  You would hope that a network would one day pick this series up and continue the story-line...  I hope the movie Serenity is a big success and Fox realizes it let go of a GEM.  This was a great, high quality seris, smart entertainment, someone really made a mistake to let this slip by.... 
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Ditto &#8211; Quality TV just seems to end this way.  You would hope that a network would one day pick this series up and continue the story-line&#8230;  I hope the movie Serenity is a big success and Fox realizes it let go of a GEM.  This was a great, high quality seris, smart entertainment, someone really made a mistake to let this slip by&#8230;.
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		<title>By: mpbrooklaw</title>
		<link>http://www.bureau42.com/view/1725/firefly-review-the-complete-series/comment-page-1#comment-7821</link>
		<dc:creator>mpbrooklaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: something needed
Another convert to the fold - seen every episode twice, gave to the troops, sent the DVD to my brother and told all of my friends to buy, two more down!  

What else to do - have bugged universal, sent money to the troops....long live Serenity</description>
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Another convert to the fold &#8211; seen every episode twice, gave to the troops, sent the DVD to my brother and told all of my friends to buy, two more down!  </p>
<p>What else to do &#8211; have bugged universal, sent money to the troops&#8230;.long live Serenity</p>
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		<title>By: rickyjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>rickyjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2004 04:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: something needed
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;
So I bought it friday... and I&#039;ve now seen all but 6 episodes... I really love this show. It&#039;s quality is a lot better than Enterprise...
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;
 Told you so.  Welcome into the fold.  Check out &lt;A href=&quot;http://www.fireflyfans.net&quot;&gt;this&lt;/A&gt; and especially &lt;A href=&quot;http://login.prospero.com/dir-login/index.asp?webtag=foxfirefly&quot;&gt;this&lt;/A&gt;.  Now you gotta tell somebody else to pre-sell the Universal Studios movie that&#039;s gonna &lt;A href=&quot;http://www.universalstudios.com/homepage/html/contact_us/contact_form.cgi?email_id=9&quot;&gt;bring this series Back To Life&lt;/A&gt;.  I for one am not just gonna sit around and watch it die.  I hope you won&#039;t either.
&lt;P&gt;
Oh, and if you&#039;ve got 6 more eps to go - well, you haven&#039;t even gotten to the good ones yet.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: something needed</p>
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So I bought it friday&#8230; and I&#8217;ve now seen all but 6 episodes&#8230; I really love this show. It&#8217;s quality is a lot better than Enterprise&#8230;
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<p> Told you so.  Welcome into the fold.  Check out <a href="http://www.fireflyfans.net">this</a> and especially <a href="http://login.prospero.com/dir-login/index.asp?webtag=foxfirefly">this</a>.  Now you gotta tell somebody else to pre-sell the Universal Studios movie that&#8217;s gonna <a href="http://www.universalstudios.com/homepage/html/contact_us/contact_form.cgi?email_id=9">bring this series Back To Life</a>.  I for one am not just gonna sit around and watch it die.  I hope you won&#8217;t either.</p>
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Oh, and if you&#8217;ve got 6 more eps to go &#8211; well, you haven&#8217;t even gotten to the good ones yet.</p></p>
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		<title>By: is</title>
		<link>http://www.bureau42.com/view/1725/firefly-review-the-complete-series/comment-page-1#comment-7396</link>
		<dc:creator>is</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2004 21:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: something needed
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Just follow the order in the DVD box.  There&#039;s four disks and each disk has three or four episodes listed on the back of the disk slipcover.  Just go from disk 1 to disk 4 and from top to bottom on each slipcover list.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;
So I bought it friday... and I&#039;ve now seen all but 6 episodes... I really love this show. It&#039;s quality is a lot better than Enterprise... Fox must be governed by fools to have let this one go. Even my mother and wife are hooked on Firefly. If this show had been let flourish it would be a real winner I think. But Fox as usual, as gone and shot itself in the foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: something needed</p>
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Just follow the order in the DVD box.  There&#8217;s four disks and each disk has three or four episodes listed on the back of the disk slipcover.  Just go from disk 1 to disk 4 and from top to bottom on each slipcover list.
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<p>So I bought it friday&#8230; and I&#8217;ve now seen all but 6 episodes&#8230; I really love this show. It&#8217;s quality is a lot better than Enterprise&#8230; Fox must be governed by fools to have let this one go. Even my mother and wife are hooked on Firefly. If this show had been let flourish it would be a real winner I think. But Fox as usual, as gone and shot itself in the foot.</p>
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		<title>By: rickyjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>rickyjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: something needed
Just follow the order in the DVD box.  There&#039;s four disks and each disk has three or four episodes listed on the back of the disk slipcover.  Just go from disk 1 to disk 4 and from top to bottom on each slipcover list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: something needed<br />
Just follow the order in the DVD box.  There&#8217;s four disks and each disk has three or four episodes listed on the back of the disk slipcover.  Just go from disk 1 to disk 4 and from top to bottom on each slipcover list.</p>
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		<title>By: is</title>
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		<dc:creator>is</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2004 21:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>something needed
Does anyone have the episode listed as they are intended to be viewed?
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;
I&#039;ve not seen a single ep. and would like to see them in the right order.
&lt;BR&gt;igs@bureau42.com or post it here...</description>
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Does anyone have the episode listed as they are intended to be viewed?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not seen a single ep. and would like to see them in the right order.<br />
<br /><a href="mailto:igs@bureau42.com">igs@bureau42.com</a> or post it here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rickyjames</title>
		<link>http://www.bureau42.com/view/1725/firefly-review-the-complete-series/comment-page-1#comment-7389</link>
		<dc:creator>rickyjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2004 20:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wash / Kaylee Subplot Initiated in Heart of Gold?
Just finished watching Heart of Gold and found myself wondering about where the storyline threads would have gone if future eps had been made. Obviously HoG initiated one new twist, that Inara had decided to leave. This new wrinkle was even referenced at the beginning of the following ep Objects in Space as a continuing issue that wasn&#039;t going to get resolved in that ep, which focused on River. 
&lt;P&gt;
I&#039;m wondering, however, if HoG initiated another subplot just as profound as Inara leaving: a possible growing relationship (perhaps sexual?) between Kaylee and Wash. Look carefully: Kaylee&#039;s rejected by the doc for the upteenth time and seeks consolation from Wash, who says he&#039;d &quot;take her in a manly fashion were he not wed&quot;. Later there&#039;s tension injected into Wash and Zoe&#039;s marriage by talk of a baby that she wants and he doesn&#039;t. Wash does his typical lost-boy-among-warriors routine (which he&#039;s great at, I&#039;m not being critical) then heads across the plains alone to Serenity with fellow geek Kaylee. Who saves his life. And ends up on top of him in the process. And where does Wash end up for the rest of the ep? Kaylee&#039;s lair, with the words &quot;Nobody&#039;s going anywhere&quot;, which he realizes includes himself. Maybe it wasn&#039;t just his isolation from the bridge that was being hinted at here? 
&lt;P&gt;
All I&#039;m saying is that Firefly scripts were written in SUCH a tight and focussed manner that they&#039;re brilliant for all the layers on layers that are within them. I just don&#039;t believe that all the Wash / Kaylee stuff in HoG was an accident. By the end of HoG (where remember, Jayne FINDS his version of bliss), could it be that not only is Mal threatened with the loss of the one he loves...but Zoe as well? 
&lt;P&gt;
Also, coincidence that Mutant Enemy let Alan and Jewel do the commentary together for Message? 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wash / Kaylee Subplot Initiated in Heart of Gold?<br />
Just finished watching Heart of Gold and found myself wondering about where the storyline threads would have gone if future eps had been made. Obviously HoG initiated one new twist, that Inara had decided to leave. This new wrinkle was even referenced at the beginning of the following ep Objects in Space as a continuing issue that wasn&#8217;t going to get resolved in that ep, which focused on River. </p>
<p>
I&#8217;m wondering, however, if HoG initiated another subplot just as profound as Inara leaving: a possible growing relationship (perhaps sexual?) between Kaylee and Wash. Look carefully: Kaylee&#8217;s rejected by the doc for the upteenth time and seeks consolation from Wash, who says he&#8217;d &#8220;take her in a manly fashion were he not wed&#8221;. Later there&#8217;s tension injected into Wash and Zoe&#8217;s marriage by talk of a baby that she wants and he doesn&#8217;t. Wash does his typical lost-boy-among-warriors routine (which he&#8217;s great at, I&#8217;m not being critical) then heads across the plains alone to Serenity with fellow geek Kaylee. Who saves his life. And ends up on top of him in the process. And where does Wash end up for the rest of the ep? Kaylee&#8217;s lair, with the words &#8220;Nobody&#8217;s going anywhere&#8221;, which he realizes includes himself. Maybe it wasn&#8217;t just his isolation from the bridge that was being hinted at here?
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<p>
All I&#8217;m saying is that Firefly scripts were written in SUCH a tight and focussed manner that they&#8217;re brilliant for all the layers on layers that are within them. I just don&#8217;t believe that all the Wash / Kaylee stuff in HoG was an accident. By the end of HoG (where remember, Jayne FINDS his version of bliss), could it be that not only is Mal threatened with the loss of the one he loves&#8230;but Zoe as well?
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Also, coincidence that Mutant Enemy let Alan and Jewel do the commentary together for Message?</p>
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		<title>By: rickyjames</title>
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		<dc:creator>rickyjames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2004 04:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Message
I agree, The Message is a lot weaker than the other two unaired eps.  I thought Heart of Gold was perfecto; Trash was a fun romp, but they shoulda/coulda come up with a better angle on the way the laser gun husband felt about Saffron - as it was, not quite believable but OK.  
&lt;P&gt;
The main problem with Message is that friends turn on each other over a contrived missunderstanding.  Book and Mal  know that the other is talking about a double-cross with the crooked Feds in the conversation that Tracy overhears, which Book ultimately implements; why didn&#039;t they just say so in plain English to dumb ole Tracy to get him to put the gun down?  Cuz then you got no story.  Not even one with dumb bad guys that fail to blow up Serenity as soon as they get back to their jet.
&lt;P&gt;
Alan T had interesting insights on the commentary track of Message, saying they found out they were canceled in the middle of this ep and as a result, were doing a lot of crazy things they wouldn&#039;t have otherwise.  Case in point, in other eps Wash is cool under pressure while flying, and this was an agreed-upon trait.  In Message, he&#039;s a flying maniac.  
&lt;P&gt;
Still, even with these flaws, a great ep and better than the best you&#039;ll see on a lot of other shows. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Message<br />
I agree, The Message is a lot weaker than the other two unaired eps.  I thought Heart of Gold was perfecto; Trash was a fun romp, but they shoulda/coulda come up with a better angle on the way the laser gun husband felt about Saffron &#8211; as it was, not quite believable but OK.  </p>
<p>
The main problem with Message is that friends turn on each other over a contrived missunderstanding.  Book and Mal  know that the other is talking about a double-cross with the crooked Feds in the conversation that Tracy overhears, which Book ultimately implements; why didn&#8217;t they just say so in plain English to dumb ole Tracy to get him to put the gun down?  Cuz then you got no story.  Not even one with dumb bad guys that fail to blow up Serenity as soon as they get back to their jet.
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Alan T had interesting insights on the commentary track of Message, saying they found out they were canceled in the middle of this ep and as a result, were doing a lot of crazy things they wouldn&#8217;t have otherwise.  Case in point, in other eps Wash is cool under pressure while flying, and this was an agreed-upon trait.  In Message, he&#8217;s a flying maniac.
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Still, even with these flaws, a great ep and better than the best you&#8217;ll see on a lot of other shows.</p>
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		<title>By: fiziko</title>
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		<dc:creator>fiziko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2003 21:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: New episodes
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=&quot;cite&quot;&gt; 
&lt;p&gt; 
 The other &quot;new&quot; episode &quot;The Message&quot; was not terribly 
compelling to me, partly because Mal And Zoe&#039;s old buddy 
was really really dumb (yeah, SURE the organ smugglers 
will give you back your own insides after you make the 
run...) and partly because I thought the crew made a 
*serious* (considering their experience) error in not 
killing the three renegade Alliance guys the minute they 
turned to walk out the door.   
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; 
&lt;p&gt; 
Those were problems, but not my biggest problem with the 
episode.  If there&#039;s such a problem transporting organs, 
how does the smuggler get his originals back?  If they&#039;re 
waiting on the other side, how did they get there?  It&#039;s 
probably the worst episode of the series.  The fact that 
it&#039;s still pretty good actually says a lot.  There are 
some excellent moments in it, particularly in the teaser.  
(&quot;My food is problematic.&quot;) 
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<p>
 The other &#8220;new&#8221; episode &#8220;The Message&#8221; was not terribly<br />
compelling to me, partly because Mal And Zoe&#8217;s old buddy<br />
was really really dumb (yeah, SURE the organ smugglers<br />
will give you back your own insides after you make the<br />
run&#8230;) and partly because I thought the crew made a<br />
*serious* (considering their experience) error in not<br />
killing the three renegade Alliance guys the minute they<br />
turned to walk out the door.
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<p>
Those were problems, but not my biggest problem with the<br />
episode.  If there&#8217;s such a problem transporting organs,<br />
how does the smuggler get his originals back?  If they&#8217;re<br />
waiting on the other side, how did they get there?  It&#8217;s<br />
probably the worst episode of the series.  The fact that<br />
it&#8217;s still pretty good actually says a lot.  There are<br />
some excellent moments in it, particularly in the teaser.<br />
(&#8220;My food is problematic.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: kcbaltz</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: so...
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<p>WARNING:&#8230; Spoilers follow in one of the messages below.  If you haven&#8217;t seen the 3 unaired eps, don&#8217;t read &#8220;New Episodes&#8221; by NSA. </p>
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