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		<title>By: y42</title>
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		<dc:creator>y42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Very Grimm indeed
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It doesn&#039;t seem likely that people would think of this as a biopic when the previews clearly state that they encounter real magic, though one might be inclined to suspect it includes some parts of their real lives.  &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I missed the wires.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&#039;ve hit it with this comment, though. Even I expected a fantasy with &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; connection to the Grimms&#039; actual lives, and I think a lot of people are expecting something a little more than that.&lt;/p&gt;
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There you go, expecting things from Terry Gilliam... tsk, tsk, tsk. Just sit down and be confused like the rest of us! ;-)</description>
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It doesn&#8217;t seem likely that people would think of this as a biopic when the previews clearly state that they encounter real magic, though one might be inclined to suspect it includes some parts of their real lives.  </p></blockquote>
<p>I missed the wires.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve hit it with this comment, though. Even I expected a fantasy with <i>some</i> connection to the Grimms&#8217; actual lives, and I think a lot of people are expecting something a little more than that.</p>
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<p>There you go, expecting things from Terry Gilliam&#8230; tsk, tsk, tsk. Just sit down and be confused like the rest of us! ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Timeshredder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timeshredder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Very Grimm indeed
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It doesn&#039;t seem likely that people would think of this as a biopic when the previews clearly state that they encounter real magic, though one might be inclined to suspect it includes some parts of their real lives.  &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I missed the wires.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&#039;ve hit it with this comment, though. Even I expected a fantasy with &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; connection to the Grimms&#039; actual lives, and I think a lot of people are expecting something a little more than that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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It doesn&#8217;t seem likely that people would think of this as a biopic when the previews clearly state that they encounter real magic, though one might be inclined to suspect it includes some parts of their real lives.  </p></blockquote>
<p>I missed the wires.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve hit it with this comment, though. Even I expected a fantasy with <i>some</i> connection to the Grimms&#8217; actual lives, and I think a lot of people are expecting something a little more than that.</p>
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		<title>By: vanyel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very Grimm indeed
I was really disappointed by this movie; while the forest special effects were quite good, there was one scene early in the forest where they forgot to remove some wires.  And that&#039;s just a minor nit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It doesn&#039;t seem likely that people would think of this as a biopic when the previews clearly state that they encounter real magic, though one might be inclined to suspect it includes some parts of their real lives.  I don&#039;t know anything about them to judge though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The weak point for me was the entire bit with Jonathon Pryce and the French/German conflict --- I really hated it, and especially the Cavaldi character.  He was annoying all the way through, and then the resolution of his character wasn&#039;t sufficiently developed to justify it.  Perhaps Terry Gilliam fans will like the farce, but it was just too absurd for me, and I didn&#039;t much care for the gore either.  I think it was there to motivate their continued forays into the forest after they realized that the magic was real, but I think that could have been managed in a more believable fashion.  If you want the evil king and minions to drive the plot, go back and watch the Princess Bride again to see how to do it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As expected, they throw in elements of many of the popular fairy tales, but more as throw away gags than key elements of the story.  I think the story would have been much better, and potentially funnier, if they&#039;d played up those instead of the French/German conflict.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, at the end there is a scene that at first glance is stupidly homophobic. The action itself isn&#039;t so much so when you think about what the characters are doing and who they are, but when you think about why it&#039;s even in the movie in the first place (to shock the mostly straight audience), you realize that your first impression was right. Not that such situations can&#039;t be funny, it&#039;s just that in this case, it&#039;s sole purpose is to play up and reinforce the &quot;ick factor&quot; that two guys might actually kiss, however unromantically or justified in the situation. It is simply inexcusable today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suspect Terry Gilliam fans may have a better reaction to the movie, and I also think I had too high expectations for it, considering I should have figured it would be rather like this going in, but it really left me feeling like I&#039;d wasted the afternoon seeing it, even though there were good parts, particularly Heath Ledger&#039;s acting...</description>
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I was really disappointed by this movie; while the forest special effects were quite good, there was one scene early in the forest where they forgot to remove some wires.  And that&#8217;s just a minor nit.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem likely that people would think of this as a biopic when the previews clearly state that they encounter real magic, though one might be inclined to suspect it includes some parts of their real lives.  I don&#8217;t know anything about them to judge though.</p>
<p>The weak point for me was the entire bit with Jonathon Pryce and the French/German conflict &#8212; I really hated it, and especially the Cavaldi character.  He was annoying all the way through, and then the resolution of his character wasn&#8217;t sufficiently developed to justify it.  Perhaps Terry Gilliam fans will like the farce, but it was just too absurd for me, and I didn&#8217;t much care for the gore either.  I think it was there to motivate their continued forays into the forest after they realized that the magic was real, but I think that could have been managed in a more believable fashion.  If you want the evil king and minions to drive the plot, go back and watch the Princess Bride again to see how to do it.</p>
<p>As expected, they throw in elements of many of the popular fairy tales, but more as throw away gags than key elements of the story.  I think the story would have been much better, and potentially funnier, if they&#8217;d played up those instead of the French/German conflict.</p>
<p>Finally, at the end there is a scene that at first glance is stupidly homophobic. The action itself isn&#8217;t so much so when you think about what the characters are doing and who they are, but when you think about why it&#8217;s even in the movie in the first place (to shock the mostly straight audience), you realize that your first impression was right. Not that such situations can&#8217;t be funny, it&#8217;s just that in this case, it&#8217;s sole purpose is to play up and reinforce the &quot;ick factor&quot; that two guys might actually kiss, however unromantically or justified in the situation. It is simply inexcusable today.</p>
<p>I suspect Terry Gilliam fans may have a better reaction to the movie, and I also think I had too high expectations for it, considering I should have figured it would be rather like this going in, but it really left me feeling like I&#8217;d wasted the afternoon seeing it, even though there were good parts, particularly Heath Ledger&#8217;s acting&#8230;</p>
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