A minor point on the construction of the Blackbird. If they had that much carbon composite laying around, and they know it doesn't read on DRADIS, why haven't they used it before? Also, Starbuck said the Blackbird was build for speed more than maneuverability, with is probably a good thing. Composite materials tend to be heavier than metals.

Greviences: Why did they destroy all those Raiders? They were shut down. Tow them in, yank the brains out and learn to fly them!!!!! At the very least, strip them! Based on what we saw with Starbuck's Raider, the Colonials and the Cylons use the same ammo in their guns, use that. In the long run it would be easier to mount guns scavenged from the Raiders to a Raptor than to try and maintain the origianal weapons as they wear out.

Although, the moral boost after that... that wasn't a fight, the only description I can think of is "turkey-shoot," must have been tremendous.

Okay, I'll stop talking... for now.

Although, the moral boost after that... that wasn't a fight, the only description I can think of is "turkey-shoot," must have been tremendous.

Okay, I'll stop talking... for now.

How ironic that Laura dying just as her popularity seems to be reaching an all-time high among all segments of the fleet's population. I wonder if everyone in the fleet now knows she is dying, or is it just the higher-ups? And I wodner if the Pegasus has any more modern medical facilities?

-Joe

How ironic that Laura dying just as her popularity seems to be reaching an all-time high among all segments of the fleet's population. I wonder if everyone in the fleet now knows she is dying, or is it just the higher-ups? And I wodner if the Pegasus has any more modern medical facilities?

-Joe

They might at least have another doctor.

I doubt it would make a difference. If I recall, her cancer was terminal before Caprica was destroyed.

Greviences: Why did they destroy all those Raiders? They were shut down. Tow them in, yank the brains out and learn to fly them!!!!!

That scene bothered me for another reason entirely: yeah, it was the right thing to do, because you just can't trust that the virus has permanently killed them, and the cylons could come and fix them anyhow if you left them behind (and I don't think they have the cargo capacity to have hauled off the lot of them)...but somehow it just seemed wrong to me to be blasting away at what amount to defenseless (at that point) lifeforms. Especially with glee. Yeah, in their place, I probably would too, but as a viewer who's been led to wonder just what they've got in mind, and to even be sympathetic to at least one of them, and then showing them blowing up with blood and guts... It seemed to me more like something you do because you have to, not because you're enjoying it.

That was more of a little pop-up thought at the time though, overall, I agree with the comments about how good it was and particularly the emotional response at the end. I think my high point was Tyrol jumping in to save the bottle of (presumably) rare ambrosia ;-)

As for next week. Commander errr Admiral? Cain a Woman. Ok , Starbuck's grown on me but enough already!

It's Michelle Forbes, so any sex-changing complaints are moot. She rocks!

I really love the nods to the old series that we are getting with the new one. The experimental fighter for Starbuck to pilot really remindes me of the reconnisance viper they built for Starbuck in the original, minus of course the cheesy "kit" computer voice.

I'm sure we'll see this stealth fighter doing reconnisance work against the cylons someday.

All in all this episode really felt like a great filler episode. And they didn't have any Baltar and Six, oh and I didn't miss it AT ALL. They did some really great character work this episode.

As for next week. Commander errr Admiral? Cain a Woman. Ok , Starbuck's grown on me but enough already!

Building something like this is by no means simple but making the pieces can be. But if you have the right a good instructional diagrams and jigs you could tap some unexpected resources, children. "Put this jig on this piece of metal, take this sharpie and mark all the holes"

If you plan things really well, you can massivly reduce your build time. Look at that scene where Cally helped Tyrol do something because his hands wouldn't fit. A more refined manufacturing method would have made that connection before all that other stuff was put in the way. Another way to speed things up would be to use common parts. Look at the 2 1/2 ton trucks from WWII. If you take one of the horizontal crossmembers from one truck, flip it over and it becomes an engine mount.

Okay enough time fooling around, time to write that paper.

But if you have the right a good instructional diagrams and jigs you could tap some unexpected resources, children. "Put this jig on this piece of metal, take this sharpie and mark all the holes"

If you plan things really well, you can massivly reduce your build time. Look at that scene where Cally helped Tyrol do something because his hands wouldn't fit.

But if you have the right a good instructional diagrams and jigs you could tap some unexpected resources, children. "Put this jig on this piece of metal, take this sharpie and mark all the holes"

If you plan things really well, you can massivly reduce your build time. Look at that scene where Cally helped Tyrol do something because his hands wouldn't fit.

To quote Emo Philips, "Remember the good old days, when children worked in factories?" :)

-Joe

Children have traditionally been exploited because they were powerless. I was suggesting that blackbird consruction could be broken down to the point where children who aren't even going to school could contribute to the fleet's survival.

But if you have the right a good instructional diagrams and jigs you could tap some unexpected resources, children. "Put this jig on this piece of metal, take this sharpie and mark all the holes"

If you plan things really well, you can massivly reduce your build time. Look at that scene where Cally helped Tyrol do something because his hands wouldn't fit.

To quote Emo Philips, "Remember the good old days, when children worked in factories?" :)

-Joe

First off the second paragraph you quoted me on was poorly written on my part. That was meant to illustrate how some planning could reduce manufacture time, by installing components during the phase in which the are most accessible.

Children have traditionally been exploited because they were powerless. I was suggesting that blackbird consruction could be broken down to the point where children who aren't even going to school could contribute to the fleet's survival.

But if you have the right a good instructional diagrams and jigs you could tap some unexpected resources, children. "Put this jig on this piece of metal, take this sharpie and mark all the holes"

If you plan things really well, you can massivly reduce your build time. Look at that scene where Cally helped Tyrol do something because his hands wouldn't fit.

To quote Emo Philips, "Remember the good old days, when children worked in factories?" :)

-Joe

First off the second paragraph you quoted me on was poorly written on my part. That was meant to illustrate how some planning could reduce manufacture time, by installing components during the phase in which the are most accessible.

Children have traditionally been exploited because they were powerless. I was suggesting that blackbird consruction could be broken down to the point where children who aren't even going to school could contribute to the fleet's survival.

I understood you. I was making a joke. :)

...there's really nothing I can say without looking foolish, is there?

Oh how stupid & wrong I was.

The virus, while fun and uniquely handled was a subplot to me. The plot was the borderline breakdown of the crew, and at the very end of the episode my eyes watered pretty heavily and I was quite happy my wife wasn't in the room to make fun of me. Not the naming of the ship part, just the whole sequence and rather emotion filled release at the end of a simple thing called hope. Having the entire squadron get to shoot to shit all those cylons like was done to their friends, family, countrymen, to their race and to laugh about it, have fun, blow off on of the biggest relief valves ever. Man that was awesome.

Next week, holy hell. I saw 'pegasus' in the TiVo list and popped off a school girl giggle kind of thing and my wife goes 'what, that look familiar to you or what' and I tried to explain the pegasus idea and then kinda stuttered to a stop with a 'oh, never mind, long story' type of thing. The preview sure makes it look a lot more interesting, and Admiral Cain and all that change sure was welcome. I can't wait.

and at the very end of the episode my eyes watered pretty heavily and I was quite happy my wife wasn't in the room to make fun of me

ditto

(B) The cylons would have NO problem sacrificing several hundred (or thousand?) raiders in order to make Adama trust Sharon a teeeny bit more?

That's #1 - some of us make it a point to skip previews and Next Time Ons. Please spoiler-cut those for us! Thanks.

Second, who else thinks that:

(A) Adama could've been a TEENY bit nicer to Sharon after she saved the entire fleet? Just a teeeeeeeeeeny bit?

(B) The cylons would have NO problem sacrificing several hundred (or thousand?) raiders in order to make Adama trust Sharon a teeeny bit more?

(C) The blood and guts splashing out of the raiders was cool?

(C) The blood and guts splashing out of the raiders was cool?