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		<title>By: y42</title>
		<link>http://www.bureau42.com/view/3080/battlestar-galactica-black-market/comment-page-1#comment-15811</link>
		<dc:creator>y42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Jinx!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;I thought this episode finally gave Apollo some needed depth.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thought it finally gave him some much needed poontang, but that&#039;s me : )&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m glad to see that Appollo isn&#039;t letting his crush on Starbuck get in the way of his scorecard.</description>
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<blockquote TYPE="cite">I thought this episode finally gave Apollo some needed depth.</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought it finally gave him some much needed poontang, but that&#8217;s me : )<br />I&#8217;m glad to see that Appollo isn&#8217;t letting his crush on Starbuck get in the way of his scorecard.</p>
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		<title>By: sflory</title>
		<link>http://www.bureau42.com/view/3080/battlestar-galactica-black-market/comment-page-1#comment-15804</link>
		<dc:creator>sflory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Baltar, etc.&lt;br /&gt;Rather collaborating;-)</description>
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		<title>By: sflory</title>
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		<dc:creator>sflory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Baltar, etc.&lt;br /&gt;  Also remember that Baltar has already been acused of colaberating with the Cylons.  The fact that the evidence was fake, and the accuser was a Cylon makes it very hard to accuse him again.  Also you&#039;ve got to admit that everything he&#039;s done so far has been for the betterment of the fleet.  (What ever his motives might have been.)  He&#039;s crazy yes, but appears to outsiders to be crazy like a fox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Baltar, etc.<br />  Also remember that Baltar has already been acused of colaberating with the Cylons.  The fact that the evidence was fake, and the accuser was a Cylon makes it very hard to accuse him again.  Also you&#8217;ve got to admit that everything he&#8217;s done so far has been for the betterment of the fleet.  (What ever his motives might have been.)  He&#8217;s crazy yes, but appears to outsiders to be crazy like a fox.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Baltar, etc.&lt;br /&gt;(edit: beaten)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is what I get for trying to write a comment and debug HTML at the same time. :(</description>
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<p>This is what I get for trying to write a comment and debug HTML at the same time. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Baltar, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;It seems quite clear to me that it&#039;s no more than six months since the attack at this point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thought that was kinda a given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last week, we had Roslin&#039;s flashback to the day she learns she&#039;s got cancer, which (from the miniseries) we know was the day of the Cylon attack. There was a caption on that flashback, &quot;189 Days Ago,&quot; which gives us a pretty clear timeline up to that point.</description>
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<blockquote TYPE="cite">It seems quite clear to me that it&#8217;s no more than six months since the attack at this point.</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought that was kinda a given.</p>
<p>Last week, we had Roslin&#8217;s flashback to the day she learns she&#8217;s got cancer, which (from the miniseries) we know was the day of the Cylon attack. There was a caption on that flashback, &quot;189 Days Ago,&quot; which gives us a pretty clear timeline up to that point.</p>
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		<title>By: TomSwiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomSwiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Baltar, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;It seems quite clear to me that it&#039;s no more than six months since the attack at this point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During the President&#039;s flashbacks in &quot;Epiphanies&quot; there&#039;s a subtitle that reads something like &quot;Caprica: 183 days ago&quot;. Yep, about six months.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Baltar, etc.<br />
<blockquote TYPE="cite">It seems quite clear to me that it&#8217;s no more than six months since the attack at this point.</p></blockquote>
<p>During the President&#8217;s flashbacks in &quot;Epiphanies&quot; there&#8217;s a subtitle that reads something like &quot;Caprica: 183 days ago&quot;. Yep, about six months.</p>
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		<title>By: Eldhrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eldhrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Baltar, etc.&lt;br /&gt;It seems quite clear to me that it&#039;s no more than six months since the attack at this point. I think the largest interval of time I&#039;ve been aware of is after Resurrection Ship, Part Two - there was a reference to two weeks having passed between that episode and Epiphanies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it&#039;s fairly clear that things have to move slowly, as it were, because there&#039;s so much going on. If we went away and left them for a month before coming back for another episode, we&#039;d find the fleet much changed and very confusing, I&#039;m sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Baltar, etc.<br />It seems quite clear to me that it&#8217;s no more than six months since the attack at this point. I think the largest interval of time I&#8217;ve been aware of is after Resurrection Ship, Part Two &#8211; there was a reference to two weeks having passed between that episode and Epiphanies.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s fairly clear that things have to move slowly, as it were, because there&#8217;s so much going on. If we went away and left them for a month before coming back for another episode, we&#8217;d find the fleet much changed and very confusing, I&#8217;m sure!</p>
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		<title>By: dcheesi</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcheesi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Now...Earlier...Now&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;Bit of a tangent but I thought the unaired episode(the one with the bounty hunter) of Firefly in the DvD collection was pretty crappy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But yeah, no show is perfect :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&quot;Does that seem right to you?&quot; :) actually I really liked that episode. There are a couple of episodes early on that I could do without, though. Not so much &lt;i&gt;bad&lt;/i&gt; as just not as compelling and/or hilarious. But this seems to be a highly personal thing, with wildly differing opinions among Firefly fans.&lt;br /&gt;</description>
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<blockquote TYPE="cite">Bit of a tangent but I thought the unaired episode(the one with the bounty hunter) of Firefly in the DvD collection was pretty crappy.</p>
<p>But yeah, no show is perfect :)</p></blockquote>
<p>&quot;Does that seem right to you?&quot; :) actually I really liked that episode. There are a couple of episodes early on that I could do without, though. Not so much <i>bad</i> as just not as compelling and/or hilarious. But this seems to be a highly personal thing, with wildly differing opinions among Firefly fans.</p>
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		<title>By: lost</title>
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		<dc:creator>lost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baltar, etc.&lt;br /&gt;After reading comments on b42 (and other places), I&#039;ve come to a conclusion. I think a lot of folks either haven&#039;t realized or forget that BSG doesn&#039;t progress realtime. We may be 3/4 through the second season but we aren&#039;t 3/4 through the second year of events. If I&#039;ve got it pegged right, we&#039;re still well within the first year of events.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Given that events are not progressing realtime, our first impressions of how believable it is for character X to get away with Y for so long may well be skewed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let&#039;s take Baltar as an example. He hasn&#039;t been wreaking havok for as long as it feels like he has (at least to those of use used to series progressing at approximately a year for every season). Given that the passage of time is less than it feels, it&#039;s entirely reasonable that the administration may be suspcious of Baltar without knowing what he&#039;s up to. Could be the &quot;enough rope to hang yourself&quot; thing. Also, the level of distraction from other events may also have prevented any real action against Baltar. Also, given his current position of Vice President and the fact that the general population doesn&#039;t see his behaviour, they would have to move more carefully or face a revolt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All that said, you don&#039;t have to jump all over this and say &quot;but that is just explaining away weaknesses in the plot&quot; or &quot;but surely in the situation they would have acted&quot; or what have you. I&#039;m just throwing this out as a counterpoint to the other arguments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It will say that I also find the length of time the Baltar thing is going on a bit annoying. And, for that matter, some of the deus ex machina stuff that goes on is a bit obvious. But this is supposed to be entertaining. Sometimes, you have to dispense with total realism in the interest of making something entertaining rather than boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baltar, etc.<br />After reading comments on b42 (and other places), I&#8217;ve come to a conclusion. I think a lot of folks either haven&#8217;t realized or forget that BSG doesn&#8217;t progress realtime. We may be 3/4 through the second season but we aren&#8217;t 3/4 through the second year of events. If I&#8217;ve got it pegged right, we&#8217;re still well within the first year of events.</p>
<p>Given that events are not progressing realtime, our first impressions of how believable it is for character X to get away with Y for so long may well be skewed.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take Baltar as an example. He hasn&#8217;t been wreaking havok for as long as it feels like he has (at least to those of use used to series progressing at approximately a year for every season). Given that the passage of time is less than it feels, it&#8217;s entirely reasonable that the administration may be suspcious of Baltar without knowing what he&#8217;s up to. Could be the &quot;enough rope to hang yourself&quot; thing. Also, the level of distraction from other events may also have prevented any real action against Baltar. Also, given his current position of Vice President and the fact that the general population doesn&#8217;t see his behaviour, they would have to move more carefully or face a revolt.</p>
<p>All that said, you don&#8217;t have to jump all over this and say &quot;but that is just explaining away weaknesses in the plot&quot; or &quot;but surely in the situation they would have acted&quot; or what have you. I&#8217;m just throwing this out as a counterpoint to the other arguments.</p>
<p>It will say that I also find the length of time the Baltar thing is going on a bit annoying. And, for that matter, some of the deus ex machina stuff that goes on is a bit obvious. But this is supposed to be entertaining. Sometimes, you have to dispense with total realism in the interest of making something entertaining rather than boring.</p>
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		<title>By: J_W_W</title>
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		<dc:creator>J_W_W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Jinx!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually, I thought this episode finally gave Apollo some needed depth.  Prior to this it&#039;s been all about his &quot;daddy issues&quot; and now he&#039;s finally shown to have had something of a real life before everything got blowed up real good.  The scenes with Dee, in particular, made him a more interesting character in my eyes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did like the end when the Admiral said &quot;You should have told me about the girl.&quot;  I thought that line really felt right for the Admiral as a commanding officer and a father.  </description>
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<p>Actually, I thought this episode finally gave Apollo some needed depth.  Prior to this it&#8217;s been all about his &quot;daddy issues&quot; and now he&#8217;s finally shown to have had something of a real life before everything got blowed up real good.  The scenes with Dee, in particular, made him a more interesting character in my eyes.</p>
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<p>I did like the end when the Admiral said &quot;You should have told me about the girl.&quot;  I thought that line really felt right for the Admiral as a commanding officer and a father.</p>
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