Many people now wonder if Karais a Cylon, even if that doesn't really makes sense. I think they'll want us to wonder about that when she makes her return.

And I'm pretty cetain she'll be returning.

Many people now wonder if Karais a Cylon, even if that doesn't really makes sense. I think they'll want us to wonder about that when she makes her return.

And I'm pretty cetain she'll be returning.

I'm sure they'll play it that way at first.

Perhaps I'm reading too much into this...

Just before she met Roslin and Adama did anyone notice when Starbuck started up the stairs the lighting went dark and when she came down it started working again....?

It was most likely intentional.

Since this scene has such foreshadowing imbedded in it, I'm wondering if Adama reaching out to Rosalin but being interrupted by Starbuck before actually making physical contact also has some future significance...

Perhaps I'm reading too much into this...

Just before she met Roslin and Adama did anyone notice when Starbuck started up the stairs the lighting went dark and when she came down it started working again....?

My current theory:

2. Apollo did catch a glimpse of the Cylon raider.

Either way, we got 4 days to see if they advance it or ignore it all together in favor of 'The Trial'

3) Ship of light.

Like this time, in the end, Appollo saw the cylon heavy raider, we saw Starbuck with her hands on the ejector seat lever... we don't see that she bails at the last second, the cylon troop transport collects her and brings her back to Leoben. But you know that's what happened.

The most important thing that everyone seems to be overlooking is in the apartment when Starbuck is watching her mother die and Leoben says that death is beautiful, Starbuck pauses for a second and says "You're not Leoben" to which he replies "I never said I was". At least that's the way I heard it.

Like this time, in the end, Appollo saw the cylon heavy raider, we saw Starbuck with her hands on the ejector seat lever... we don't see that she bails at the last second, the cylon troop transport collects her and brings her back to Leoben. But you know that's what happened.

Two problems with that theory:
One: The pressure from the planet's atmosphere imploded Starbuck's viper. Her body is a lot less sturdy, and unlike the few seconds of vacuum that Chief and Cally survived, a few seconds of enough pressure to implode a starship means human pate.
Two: If Starbuck is a Cylon then she could have just resurrected. It's not like they've stated that you can't have a single resurrection unit in a Cylon shuttle after all. So, no real reason for her to eject and the Cylon's to make a dashing rescue. Even if she could have survived it.

One: FTL is impossible. Artificial gravity is impossible, the Cylon download, as described, is impossible. The virus transmission from the lionhead marker was impossible, etc, etc, etc.
Moral: If it helps the story, they'll expect you to suspend your disbelief.

Two: I didn't say she's a Cylon, I'm saying Leoben isn't done trying to make her fall in love with him.

I also remember, however, the great skepticism with which we faced the finale of season two... That gave us probably one of the most thrilling moments ever seen on science fiction TV

1. Starbuck IS a Cylon (Isn't that like the worse kept secrete in ALL of fandom?)

1. Starbuck IS a Cylon (Isn't that like the worse kept secrete in ALL of fandom?)

3. The heavy raider was not real it and the Leoben visions where "in her head" like the Baltar has a six in his head and Caprica 6 has a Baltar in her head.

1. Starbuck IS a Cylon (Isn't that like the worse kept secrete in ALL of fandom?)

I feel it's too obvious, and I hope it isn't the case.

Which gets me to thinking, the Oracles know too much. It seems that only they and the Hybrids REALLY know whats going on. What I mean by that is the Final 5 have an agenda separate from the rest of the Cylons and are really calling the shots. Consider that a human Oracle gave Diana a message from the Cylon God and that the Hybrid told Baltar how to see the Final 5.

The Leobens are either in on it or at least aware of it. Remember he keeps saying "this has happened before and will happen again." And his model believes that the Hybrids are speaking mysteries not gibberish. So It maybe that the Hybrids are Cylon Oracles and that the semi lucid state they are in is Natural for them not a side effect of having to control a Base Ship.