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	<title>Comments on: Birds of Prey Review &#8211; &#8220;Prey for the Hunter&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: bluestrain</title>
		<link>http://www.bureau42.com/view/883/birds-of-prey-review-prey-for-the-hunter/comment-page-1#comment-2512</link>
		<dc:creator>bluestrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juggling too many storylines
My rants:
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt; It seems like we&#039;re jamming in way too many subplots per episode.
&lt;li&gt; Is Dinah going to come to the rescue every week?
&lt;li&gt; Yeah, the effects on Frosty sucked.
&lt;li&gt; This was the first episode without Mia Sara.  They missed her badly, and not just for cheescake.
&lt;li&gt; It only took two crimes to figure out the villian was a mimic. It should have been harder.
&lt;li&gt; Once the writers brought in a bar full of super friends, they were going to have to use them, weren&#039;t they? It shouldn&#039;t have been that easy.  
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I almost feel like this should have been a 2-parter. But I don&#039;t think the can sustain a 2 parter this early in the series. Maybe now that we&#039;ve established the teams, the community, and the menace, we can slow things down a bit.&lt;p&gt;

Blue
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juggling too many storylines<br />
My rants:</p>
<ul>
<li> It seems like we&#8217;re jamming in way too many subplots per episode.
</li>
<li> Is Dinah going to come to the rescue every week?
</li>
<li> Yeah, the effects on Frosty sucked.
</li>
<li> This was the first episode without Mia Sara.  They missed her badly, and not just for cheescake.
</li>
<li> It only took two crimes to figure out the villian was a mimic. It should have been harder.
</li>
<li> Once the writers brought in a bar full of super friends, they were going to have to use them, weren&#8217;t they? It shouldn&#8217;t have been that easy.
</li>
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I almost feel like this should have been a 2-parter. But I don&#8217;t think the can sustain a 2 parter this early in the series. Maybe now that we&#8217;ve established the teams, the community, and the menace, we can slow things down a bit.</p>
<p>Blue</p>
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		<title>By: SmokeSerpent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SmokeSerpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Freak of the week
Sorry, too used to ./&#039;s plain-old-text posting, there &lt;i&gt;were&lt;/i&gt; paragraphs in there, I swear. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Freak of the week<br />
Sorry, too used to ./&#8217;s plain-old-text posting, there <i>were</i> paragraphs in there, I swear. :P</p>
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		<title>By: SmokeSerpent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SmokeSerpent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freak of the week
My wife, who is not a comic fan (neither am I, actually), keeps wanting to give this show &quot;chances&quot;. She really wanted it to be good for some reason. Last night she said to me, &quot;Is this show trying to be like X-Men? I&#039;d rather if they made an X-Men show.&quot; This event, and her fiery anger at the producers of MutantX have me thinking she really did like the X-Men movie a lot. :D

This show needs to do a few things:

Give Oracle something to do other than argue with Huntress during fight scenes. She is supposed to be the intelligence in the group, but all the &quot;research&quot; she does on the TV/Movie &quot;show me something relevant before I even push the button&quot; computer has been either throwaway stuff, or so easily obtained that she becomes little more than an audio interface to the computer.

Give Dinah something to do, anything. The junior partner who always gets captured thing is hackneyed, but at least it involves the junior partner in the plot somehow.

Slow down the relationships. Jumping the gun like many shows, they are burning through potential years of relationship growth and/or conflict in the first season. It&#039;d be more effective if Reese and the Huntress had made it till the end of the season evolving their working relationship before he called her a thing and a creature. Huntress takes it as a betrayal, but we haven&#039;t been with the characters long enought to feel the same way. Now she has plenty reason not to like Reese, but really no reason &lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt; like him other than physical attraction. If they&#039;d waited, there could be a far stronger dynamic with that...

Anyway, given its position on a fairly lackluster network, we may get a second season out of this show, but do we want it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freak of the week<br />
My wife, who is not a comic fan (neither am I, actually), keeps wanting to give this show &#8220;chances&#8221;. She really wanted it to be good for some reason. Last night she said to me, &#8220;Is this show trying to be like X-Men? I&#8217;d rather if they made an X-Men show.&#8221; This event, and her fiery anger at the producers of MutantX have me thinking she really did like the X-Men movie a lot. :D</p>
<p>This show needs to do a few things:</p>
<p>Give Oracle something to do other than argue with Huntress during fight scenes. She is supposed to be the intelligence in the group, but all the &#8220;research&#8221; she does on the TV/Movie &#8220;show me something relevant before I even push the button&#8221; computer has been either throwaway stuff, or so easily obtained that she becomes little more than an audio interface to the computer.</p>
<p>Give Dinah something to do, anything. The junior partner who always gets captured thing is hackneyed, but at least it involves the junior partner in the plot somehow.</p>
<p>Slow down the relationships. Jumping the gun like many shows, they are burning through potential years of relationship growth and/or conflict in the first season. It&#8217;d be more effective if Reese and the Huntress had made it till the end of the season evolving their working relationship before he called her a thing and a creature. Huntress takes it as a betrayal, but we haven&#8217;t been with the characters long enought to feel the same way. Now she has plenty reason not to like Reese, but really no reason <i>to</i> like him other than physical attraction. If they&#8217;d waited, there could be a far stronger dynamic with that&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, given its position on a fairly lackluster network, we may get a second season out of this show, but do we want it?</p>
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		<title>By: UncleJam</title>
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		<dc:creator>UncleJam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Already gone Battlestar Galactica
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I mean, didn&#039;t Batman kill badguys for a while and carry a gun?
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Er...no?
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Yep, way back at the very beginning. Didn&#039;t last long, though.</description>
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I mean, didn&#8217;t Batman kill badguys for a while and carry a gun?
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<p>Er&#8230;no?
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<p>Yep, way back at the very beginning. Didn&#8217;t last long, though.</p>
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		<title>By: y42</title>
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		<dc:creator>y42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Already gone Battlestar Galactica
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I mean, didn&#039;t Batman kill badguys for a while and carry a gun?
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Er...no?</description>
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I mean, didn&#8217;t Batman kill badguys for a while and carry a gun?
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<p>Er&#8230;no?</p>
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		<title>By: GusherJizmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>GusherJizmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Already gone Battlestar Galactica
The third episode and they are re-using effects shots?  Come on!  The scene of her patrolling the city was right fromt he first episode, as was the scene of her climbing up the fire escape after fighting the bad cop the first time.  Plus, how the f**k did Barbara Gordon get that wheelchair on the top of the building?
&lt;P&gt;
I think it would&#039;ve been MUCH better if only Dinah had come up to distract him and Huntress kicked him off the side.  They could spend the entire season with her desire to kill bad guys, but knowing that it&#039;s not the right thing to do.  I mean, didn&#039;t Batman kill badguys for a while and carry a gun?
&lt;P&gt;
Plus, how hard would it be for Reese to look up her mugshot and figure out who she is?  She really should wear a mask, even if it&#039;s just the lame Robin/Lone Ranger eye-only mask.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Already gone Battlestar Galactica<br />
The third episode and they are re-using effects shots?  Come on!  The scene of her patrolling the city was right fromt he first episode, as was the scene of her climbing up the fire escape after fighting the bad cop the first time.  Plus, how the f**k did Barbara Gordon get that wheelchair on the top of the building?</p>
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I think it would&#8217;ve been MUCH better if only Dinah had come up to distract him and Huntress kicked him off the side.  They could spend the entire season with her desire to kill bad guys, but knowing that it&#8217;s not the right thing to do.  I mean, didn&#8217;t Batman kill badguys for a while and carry a gun?
</p>
<p>
Plus, how hard would it be for Reese to look up her mugshot and figure out who she is?  She really should wear a mask, even if it&#8217;s just the lame Robin/Lone Ranger eye-only mask.</p>
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		<title>By: Daemonik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daemonik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Needs some work
&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;Downsides:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The exterior CGI shots need a little tweaking IMHO.  Since these look to be on there way to becoming stock exterior scenes for the series they should try to re-animate the bits of Huntress running across the rooftops.  Also the exteriors are just a bit too clean in general for a major metropolis.
&lt;p&gt;
Huntress&#039; &quot;My People Are Dying&quot; speach was perhaps the lamest bit of writing I&#039;ve ever heard.  Let&#039;s hope they don&#039;t feel a need to subject us to any more Militant-Meta stuff in the future.
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;red&quot;&gt;Upsides:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The cop coming from Bludhaven was kinda kewl, perhaps we&#039;ll get to see Nightwing sometime in the future.
&lt;p&gt;
Turning the bust of Shakespeare(Least it looked like him) to open the secret door was such a nod to the 60&#039;s Batman and Robin.  Glad to see the show isn&#039;t too proud to poke some fun at it&#039;s roots.
&lt;p&gt;
Huntress has gotten better crime fighting apparel.  The stuff she wore in the first episode was rediculous, all kinds of stuff to snag and get caught during a fight.  The leather Matrix look is much better.
&lt;p&gt;
Dina Meyer, without a doubt the best actress in the show and a super hottie. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Needs some work<br />
<b><font color="red">Downsides:</font></b></p>
<p>
The exterior CGI shots need a little tweaking IMHO.  Since these look to be on there way to becoming stock exterior scenes for the series they should try to re-animate the bits of Huntress running across the rooftops.  Also the exteriors are just a bit too clean in general for a major metropolis.
</p>
<p>
Huntress&#8217; &#8220;My People Are Dying&#8221; speach was perhaps the lamest bit of writing I&#8217;ve ever heard.  Let&#8217;s hope they don&#8217;t feel a need to subject us to any more Militant-Meta stuff in the future.
</p>
<p>
<b><font color="red">Upsides:</font></b>
</p>
<p>
The cop coming from Bludhaven was kinda kewl, perhaps we&#8217;ll get to see Nightwing sometime in the future.
</p>
<p>
Turning the bust of Shakespeare(Least it looked like him) to open the secret door was such a nod to the 60&#8242;s Batman and Robin.  Glad to see the show isn&#8217;t too proud to poke some fun at it&#8217;s roots.
</p>
<p>
Huntress has gotten better crime fighting apparel.  The stuff she wore in the first episode was rediculous, all kinds of stuff to snag and get caught during a fight.  The leather Matrix look is much better.
</p>
<p>
Dina Meyer, without a doubt the best actress in the show and a super hottie. :)</p>
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